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... I told you that i have no time and you give me more work ... Moreover your request is tricky because those characteristics are not the same a movie to another. What am i supposed to retrieve ? I can try to catch all this block but it's not going to be good looking.

And I was thinking that I was saving you time from future work I've no idea of programming so I really can't say how difficult this would be to implement, but all we need to do is to import the text in the characteristics box in a formatted way. For example, the 'Description' field for the movie "Zombieland" ( http://www.allmovie.com/movie/zombieland-v468313 ) should look as follows after importing the text in the 'Characteristics' box:

AMG SYNOPSIS: A cowardly shut-in named Columbus (Jesse Eisenberg) is forced to join up with a seasoned zombie slayer named Tallahassee (Woody Harrelson) in order to survive the zombie apocalypse. As Tallahassee sets out on a mission to find the last Twinkie on Earth, the duo meets up with Wichita (Emma Stone) and Little Rock (Abigail Breslin), two young girls who have resorted to some rather unorthodox methods to survive amidst the chaos. Reluctant partners in the battle against the undead, all four soon begin to wonder if it might be better to simply take their chances alone. -- Jason Buchanan

Characteristics:
Moods: Just for Fun
Themes: Plagues and Epidemics | Post-Apocalypse | Unlikely Friendships | Zombies
Keywords: zombie, survivor, coward, friendship, undead, wasteland

Does not seem difficult to implement at first glance, but you're the programmer Raoul so you would know better.

Hi Kalimagdora,

Kalimagdora wrote:Its cool but...

The older version was in comment: Awards and Production Credits

You did not read what I wrote about the 0.7.7 version

Hi Lemaireus,

Lemaireus wrote:I've no idea of programming

Me neither

Lemaireus wrote:all we need to do is to import the text in the characteristics box in a formatted way

I understand that . You point the finger at what is really difficult "formatted way". I can copy the block with no problem, but format it is another problem.

Does not seem difficult to implement at first glance, but you're the programmer Raoul so you would know better.

Well not seem, but it does. Especially for a guy like me who is not a programmer. I'm just a lambda user of AMC just like you. I learned the script's language by analyzing existing scripts and looking at sites about Pascal programming language.

Lemaireus wrote:Also, it would be nice to have 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' before the synopsis, just as 'AMG REVIEW:' precedes the review.

About that, it should already work, but the script was designed to make the text appear only if other elements come to fill the field . So to see the 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' text before synopsis, you have to put 'ReviewOptions' or 'AwardsOptions' or 'FieldforCredits' to 1 ... make sense to me ... hope i'm clear.

Well not seem, but it does. Especially for a guy like me who is not a programmer. I'm just a lambda user of AMC just like you. I learned the script's language by analyzing existing scripts and looking at sites about Pascal programming language.

Wow, Raoul, hats off to you: that you can do the AMG script as well as you do without any training in programming is amazing. I had tried looking at the AMG script and I could not make anything out of it, I was just lost with no idea about how to go about repairing it!

About that, it should already work, but the script was designed to make the text appear only if other elements come to fill the field . So to see the 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' text before synopsis, you have to put 'ReviewOptions' or 'AwardsOptions' or 'FieldforCredits' to 1 ... make sense to me ... hope i'm clear.

Actually, this change happened when you corrected the script the first time around. The default options for 'Review', 'Awards', and 'Field for Credits' were always set to the 'Comments' field. The only content that would fill up the 'Description' field was 'Synopsis'. So, if one went with default options, filling up of the 'Description' field with the 'Synopsis' should then show 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' in that box right at the start. That should have nothing to do with the options for the 'Comments' field.

Lemaireus wrote:Wow, Raoul, hats off to you: that you can do the AMG script as well as you do without any training in programming is amazing. I had tried looking at the AMG script and I could not make anything out of it, I was just lost with no idea about how to go about repairing it!

If I was able to do it, then anyone can do it

Lemaireus wrote:Actually, this change happened when you corrected the script the first time around. The default options for 'Review', 'Awards', and 'Field for Credits' were always set to the 'Comments' field. The only content that would fill up the 'Description' field was 'Synopsis'. So, if one went with default options, filling up of the 'Description' field with the 'Synopsis' should then show 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' in that box right at the start. That should have nothing to do with the options for the 'Comments' field.

I checked with the 0.7.5 version and I have not touched this part of the script, so it had to be like that long ago. And the way it's programmed is logical. What's the point to put "AMG SYNOPSIS:" before the film description if it is the only content of the description field ?. On the other side, This makes sense if the description field contains more than the synopsis ... Well make sense to me ... and as I said earlier it was already like that before I corrected the script.

If I was able to do it, then anyone can do it

Not really, Raoul: as I said, I looked at the script and I couldn't' make head or tail out of it. I'll try to pick up Pascal a little bit and see if I fare any better.

What's the point to put "AMG SYNOPSIS:" before the film description if it is the only content of the description field ?

Exactly the same as 'AMG REVIEW:'. All that it does is to indicate that what follows is All Movie Guide's plot synopsis of the film, and AMG SYNOPSIS pairs with AMG REVIEW, looks harmonious. So it will only improve the script if you could make this feature functional once again. And, to say it again, thanks for all the time and work that you're putting in: it is much appreciated.

Raoul_Volfoni wrote:Hi Kalimagdora,

Kalimagdora wrote:Its cool but...

The older version was in comment: Awards and Production Credits

You did not read what I wrote about the 0.7.7 version

Yes, yes,
Sorry but I'm just an ordinary user. I do not understand anything from the fact what you were talking lambada or Pascal... I just loved the old version

Lemaireus wrote:Exactly the same as 'AMG REVIEW:'. All that it does is to indicate that what follows is All Movie Guide's plot synopsis of the film, and AMG SYNOPSIS pairs with AMG REVIEW, looks harmonious. So it will only improve the script if you could make this feature functional once again. And, to say it again, thanks for all the time and work that you're putting in: it is much appreciated.

But the comments field reacts the same way as the description field, all is about how you set these four options ('ReviewOptions', 'AwardsOptions', 'SynopsisOptions', 'FieldforCredits')
For now i presume you have these four options set like this :
'SynopsisOptions' > 1
'AwardsOptions' > 2
'FieldforCredits' > 2
'ReviewOptions' >2

So it's logical (not harmonious, i grant you) you don't have 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' before the description. Set one more of these options to 1 and 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' will appear.

Same thing for the comments field. Adjust these four options like this :
'SynopsisOptions' > 1
'AwardsOptions' > 1
'FieldforCredits' > 1
'ReviewOptions' > 2

'AMG REVIEW:' will disappear et 'AMG SYNOPSIS:' will appear.

We turn in circle, i don't know how to explain to you how the script was designed, more than i have already try to do. Again, it's a feature not implented by me but by previous 'programmers'. I understand your will, but it's painful for me to destroy others labour. I'am not doing anything, exept if other users (user ?) want it like you want it.

Hi guys

Here's the latest version of the script. The script should work again as before. However, this is certainly not perfect.

Retrieve : Composer and Writer fields, Staff and Awards.
Fix : Few minor bugs

AllMovieGuide 0.7.8

Raoul, thank you for your considered response. I don’t think there is any real difference in what we are saying: it is just a question of the perspective with which one looks at the issue. I had understood your point when you had explained it the first time, and I understand it even better after your explanation above.

I have been using the AMG script since 2004, that is, for more than eleven years now. My feedback to you is that of an old user’s to a programmer. I am not at all in support of “destroying” the labour of others: in fact I see you as contributing to and improving the work done by others, and that is the spirit in which I have given my feedback.

Logic and common sense are both fairly obvious on one point: the field which carries the plot synopsis should be prefaced with ‘AMG SYNOPSIS’ and the field which carries the review—which can often be empty because All Movie Guide does not review many titles—should be prefaced with ‘AMG REVIEW’. That is logical as well as harmonious.

When the previous programmers built in the options that they did, which you explain so wonderfully well in your comment above, they must have had their reasons for doing so. If as a programmer you wish to follow that lead then that is fine. All that I’m saying is that you’re putting in a lot of work in rebuilding the script, and have an opportunity to improve at least one feature which we are talking about, so why not improve what we have received from the previous programmers: that is the best respect we can show to them, the best compliment we can give them, that we are grateful for their work, that we are returning to their work again and again in our efforts to make it even better. That is the spirit which drives newer versions of every script—the manner in which Antoine continues to work on the IMDb script till today is an example to behold—and every software, and that actually may be one of your seminal contributions to the script.

I’ll be happy with whatever script you finally offer me. You have already revised this script twice, before the present revision, and the second time you had done the revision after an explicit request from me. So I will remain obliged to you for both your time and your work. You are the programmer and it is your prerogative to work the way you wish to; I’m just a user giving you feedback which I hope may be useful to you in doing the revision. I’m in support of any decision that you take, and as an eleven year old user of the script I will continue to provide you with my feedback, and hope to continue to remain as thankful to you in the future for your work as I have in the past

All my best wishes for a speedy conclusion to a perfect AMG script, once again

I was probably typing out the earlier message when you must have posted the update: noticed it only after I had hit the 'submit' button on the previous message.

Just ran v0.7.8 and the first impression is that everything seems to work perfectly well: in fact I cannot notice anything wrong at all. Composer/Writer fields fill up, and the production credits come through perfectly nicely, as do the awards.

Will give the script a thorough run through--as your unofficial beta-tester --and will post if I run into any issues.

Thanks a tonne!

It is simply amazing, better than the old one

You made me happy thank you very much

Thanks for your feedbacks guys

Lemaireus wrote:Raoul, thank you for your considered response. I don’t think there is any real difference in what we are saying: it is just a question of the perspective with which one looks at the issue. I had understood your point when you had explained it the first time, and I understand it even better after your explanation above.

I have been using the AMG script since 2004, that is, for more than eleven years now. My feedback to you is that of an old user’s to a programmer. I am not at all in support of “destroying” the labour of others: in fact I see you as contributing to and improving the work done by others, and that is the spirit in which I have given my feedback.

Logic and common sense are both fairly obvious on one point: the field which carries the plot synopsis should be prefaced with ‘AMG SYNOPSIS’ and the field which carries the review—which can often be empty because All Movie Guide does not review many titles—should be prefaced with ‘AMG REVIEW’. That is logical as well as harmonious.

When the previous programmers built in the options that they did, which you explain so wonderfully well in your comment above, they must have had their reasons for doing so. If as a programmer you wish to follow that lead then that is fine. All that I’m saying is that you’re putting in a lot of work in rebuilding the script, and have an opportunity to improve at least one feature which we are talking about, so why not improve what we have received from the previous programmers: that is the best respect we can show to them, the best compliment we can give them, that we are grateful for their work, that we are returning to their work again and again in our efforts to make it even better. That is the spirit which drives newer versions of every script—the manner in which Antoine continues to work on the IMDb script till today is an example to behold—and every software, and that actually may be one of your seminal contributions to the script.

I’ll be happy with whatever script you finally offer me. You have already revised this script twice, before the present revision, and the second time you had done the revision after an explicit request from me. So I will remain obliged to you for both your time and your work. You are the programmer and it is your prerogative to work the way you wish to; I’m just a user giving you feedback which I hope may be useful to you in doing the revision. I’m in support of any decision that you take, and as an eleven year old user of the script I will continue to provide you with my feedback, and hope to continue to remain as thankful to you in the future for your work as I have in the past

All my best wishes for a speedy conclusion to a perfect AMG script, once again

Whouaou !! What can i say ... you're damn good !! Best seller of the year !!
You win !! 0.7.9 version is out !!

All Movie Guide 0.7.9

P.S : I keep in mind your 'characteristics' request, but not for now.

Wow, Raoul, thank you, that is perfect Thank you also for keeping the 'Characteristics' in mind.

Been using the script regularly since yesterday, no issues thus far at all: just perfect. Will post if I run into anything.

Hi guys,

The 'Characteristics' request was easier than i expected.
The code should work with any characteristics type.
I added a 'CharacteristicsOption' option:
0 -> do not import
1 -> Import in description field (after synopsis) (default option)

I also added the director to the research listing, may be useful to pickup the right movie. I fixed some minor bugs too.

All Movie Guide 0.8.0

Enjoy

Hats off to you, Raoul: you've exceeded all expectations. The 'Characteristics' feature works perfectly. Adding the director to research listing is a brilliant idea and adds accuracy to the script. I do not know which bugs you fixed because I wasn't able to spot any in my usage, but thanks.

All in all I think we have the most complete AMG script yet, thanks to our man Raoul. Enjoying

... and what would have happened if you would have the time to deal with it

thx

"I also added the director to the research listing, may be useful to pickup the right movie." I LOVE IT. This is very useful

Thanks guys, I'm glad you like it, this is my greatest reward
I just hope you're not the only two to use the script

Kalimagdora wrote:... and what would have happened if you would have the time to deal with it

Much more !! ...

Raoul_Volfoni wrote:I just hope you're not the only two to use the script

AMG is a major script, Raoul, so surely there would be plenty more benefiting from your labour. I guess Kalim and I are the only two vocal ones.

One little bug has crept in: in movies with more than one director, the names are now separated by a [ / ] rather than a [ , ]. This has happened for the first time in the AMG script for the director's field: We should go back from the slash to the comma as the latter is the correct option. Comma has the sense of 'and', where as a slash has other connotations.

Thanks again for having done really terrific work